tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post4113926516703922134..comments2024-03-27T05:30:07.368-04:00Comments on The More, The Messier: Israel: WTF?Suburban Correspondenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11488916572135296650noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-18165320323161375242010-06-09T10:48:14.662-04:002010-06-09T10:48:14.662-04:00http://www.shoebat.com/blog/http://www.shoebat.com/blog/A New Yorkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11997572457756451648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-85966222760625780542010-06-09T07:31:18.016-04:002010-06-09T07:31:18.016-04:00Great post, Suburban Correspondent!Great post, Suburban Correspondent!Janahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03234310366855556236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-87867902967248296452010-06-08T23:54:14.281-04:002010-06-08T23:54:14.281-04:00I had not seen those first-hand accounts before. I...I had not seen those first-hand accounts before. I had wanted to hear their side. Thank you for posting that link and for speaking your mind (which I happen to agree with) and for reminding me too, in the process, that it is such a great, great thing that we Americans have the gift of freedom of speech.AlisonHhttp://spindyeknit.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-85166733820044290432010-06-08T17:38:00.694-04:002010-06-08T17:38:00.694-04:00BRAVO. This post took guts. More guts than I'...BRAVO. This post took guts. More guts than I'll ever have. <br /><br />And I, too, am shocked by some of the comments you've received. Why can't "mommy" bloggers talk about world events? About things that affect us emotionally? Should we just stick to diapers and fishsticks? We're smarter than that - and our readers should respect that, even if they disagree with our points.<br /><br />I must confess that even with a father who received a doctorate in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and having lived in Saudi Arabia for 15 years, I find it difficult to speak coherently about this subject. While my friends consist of "homeless" Palestinians, as well as Jews, I agree with you. A "new way forward" MUST be found if World War III is to be prevented. <br /><br />Thank you for taking time out to turn our eyes to the bigger picture. Which I frequently ignore, because it's easier, isn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-69747283255975684812010-06-08T13:33:10.764-04:002010-06-08T13:33:10.764-04:00I would stick to blogging about what you know. It...I would stick to blogging about what you know. It's so sad to see how the American media has managed to even turn the Jews against themselves. I also always find it so interesting that the American people have all this time to DISCUSS Israeli politics, and mostly, to criticize Israel. On mommy blogs, no less.... Try living here. Do you know that in the last week, there have been 7 ROCKETS FIRED on Israel? And you think we should throw rose petals in the water as we welcome their "Freedom Fighters" to replenish their weapons? Have you ever BEEN to Israel? Just wondering.ilysehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06715166345335753248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-20447076227050007192010-06-08T08:52:10.618-04:002010-06-08T08:52:10.618-04:00Great post. 2 thoughts. U.S. actions are partiall...Great post. 2 thoughts. U.S. actions are partially responsible for creating the climate that allows Israel to act how it's acting. t2: Up until this year, there was no written proof out there of Israel's nuclear weapons. They would test and manufacture plutonium and then shrug and go "what, us?" I always thought that was hilarious.Homemaker Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04184158557108064422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-41425672004442119732010-06-07T22:47:35.404-04:002010-06-07T22:47:35.404-04:00@Susan - I recognize that desire to just stick one...@Susan - I recognize that desire to just stick one's head in the sand. I think it is a very complicated issue, not easily boiled down to one blog post. I just hate the lock step that American Jews seem to be in. There is much more open dissent and discussion in Israel over their gov't and its policies toward the occupied territories than there is here. Protests, op-ed pieces, etc. - it's fascinating.<br /><br />Be brave! Check it all out! Disagreeing with something the Israeli gov't is doing doesn't make you a Holocaust denier. I heartily recommend From Beirut To Jerusalem (Thomas Friedman) - the man loves Israel, yet he is honest about its history and how it treats its Arab population. Plus, it is a fun read!Suburban Correspondenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11488916572135296650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-70175808673137000042010-06-07T21:36:59.948-04:002010-06-07T21:36:59.948-04:00What a lot of different opinions. I disagree that...What a lot of different opinions. I disagree that outrage is equal to intolerance, Michaela. SC knew this was a touchy issue before she posted and I doubt she is surprised by the depth of feeling shown in this comment section.Mum-mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10964065407491663047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-74233463582308587822010-06-07T21:11:10.264-04:002010-06-07T21:11:10.264-04:00I have to admit that I just shy away from these di...I have to admit that I just shy away from these discussion for the reasons you write about tha the comments you got. My husband and I can't discuss it either. I come from a family with Holocaust victims, he doesn't. It's like my DNA cries out at criticism of Israel even though I know there are wrongs on both sides. <br /><br />I am going to read all the links you posted - time to get my head out of the sand!Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12768569658001165651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-80368138146745533042010-06-07T21:08:19.163-04:002010-06-07T21:08:19.163-04:00You might be right that not all Israeli policies a...You might be right that not all Israeli policies are wise. you are also right that Katyushas do not present danger to the sovereignty of the Israeli state. They do, however, present danger to the Israeli civil population. I have family living in Sderot, so my perspective is a bit different than yours, and I obviously and whole heartedly disagree. That being said, i don't think criticizing Israeli government makes you a self-hating Jew.SubWifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10130118656023678187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-17193223094464094902010-06-07T18:52:46.908-04:002010-06-07T18:52:46.908-04:00The comments seem to make your point for you quite...The comments seem to make your point for you quite well,<br /><br />The oppressed can become the oppressors. It happens all the time.Jenn @ Juggling Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14455967210924573398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-53122842598570071802010-06-07T18:06:29.910-04:002010-06-07T18:06:29.910-04:00Hey there. Thank you for speaking your mind. I agr...Hey there. Thank you for speaking your mind. I agree that wanting Israelis to stop killing people does not make you a self-hating Jew. I am pretty amazed that your audience are so outraged at (and seemingly intolerant of) your viewpoint. Scary.Michaelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11038916759970109311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-41235601360098315522010-06-07T16:55:30.833-04:002010-06-07T16:55:30.833-04:00Wow, looks like a can of worms has been opened her...Wow, looks like a can of worms has been opened here, SC! Good for you in digging deeper and not being trivial. I know you enjoy making laughter, not war, so I know this is an important topic for you. I'll be clicking on your links when I have the time.Karen (formerly kcinnova)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16705613736966783261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-13585008976714805262010-06-07T13:56:03.205-04:002010-06-07T13:56:03.205-04:00Doing the same thing over and over and expecting d...Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.<br /><br />Israel + Palestine + over and over = Insanity.Suzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00361775888847203043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-46460093225808350572010-06-07T13:22:21.171-04:002010-06-07T13:22:21.171-04:00Ppp Shaw. Cough Cough. Spitting out the horse sh...Ppp Shaw. Cough Cough. Spitting out the horse shit here.BH Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18278281719542745895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-35128908677722500702010-06-07T11:24:53.032-04:002010-06-07T11:24:53.032-04:00An ill-informed, emotional outburst that clumsily ...An ill-informed, emotional outburst that clumsily avoids fact in preference to self-loathing and appeasement that is the hallmark of the liberal left. <br /><br />You are correct in one aspect though, you are brainwashed and it is self-evident in this smalltown opus of yours.<br /><br />Thank God others far more worldly are at the business-end of what keeps you and your kind safe each and every night.We Are The Britsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-65364217962712320382010-06-07T11:06:08.236-04:002010-06-07T11:06:08.236-04:00The most ridiculous article I have read yet. The r...The most ridiculous article I have read yet. The reality on the ground is totally different.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-27882293156854178332010-06-07T09:18:59.198-04:002010-06-07T09:18:59.198-04:00I'm not Jewish, but I do weary of the way my J...I'm not Jewish, but I do weary of the way my Jewish friends speak so MILITANTLY on any perceived slight--no one, no country, no action is entirely right without consequences. Your post really struck me as honest and brave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-45504689902309129292010-06-07T09:11:50.952-04:002010-06-07T09:11:50.952-04:00Thanks for sharing your views. It makes me feel go...Thanks for sharing your views. It makes me feel good to know that people are willing to acknowledge that no one is ever ALWAYS in the right. You might also appreciate Michael Chabon's NYT op-ed from yesterday:<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/06/opinion/06chabon.htmlImperatrixhttp://peaceableimperatrix.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-13429016495757839052010-06-07T08:09:02.180-04:002010-06-07T08:09:02.180-04:00I'm also tired of any non-Jewish person who di...I'm also tired of any non-Jewish person who disagrees with any of Israel's tactics being labeled anti-Semitic. It's stifling. I've no doubt some people who disagree ARE anti-Semitic. But then there are those of us who are thoughtful people with a deep respect and admiration for the Jewish culture and experience. <br /><br />If I disagree with some of America's actions, does that make me a self-hating American?amyhttp://abccreations.squarespace.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-19645691301370453462010-06-07T08:03:20.818-04:002010-06-07T08:03:20.818-04:00Well said! I don't pretend to know a lot about...Well said! I don't pretend to know a lot about middle eastern politics, but even I can see that this course of action is not working.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07378421551422918709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-73917592275884052010-06-07T06:29:24.342-04:002010-06-07T06:29:24.342-04:00I'm so glad you're speaking your mind, pro...I'm so glad you're speaking your mind, providing perspective, taking the time to go deeper. Thanks.Jennifer Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15595231987892881691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-7694384018249691332010-06-07T05:33:59.148-04:002010-06-07T05:33:59.148-04:00http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2010/06/06/...http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2010/06/06/alice-walker-my-heart-is-breaking-too-stop-the-lies-about-israel/A New Yorkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11997572457756451648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-45865297469235254632010-06-07T05:30:56.052-04:002010-06-07T05:30:56.052-04:00Just what Palestinian people do you write about? Y...Just what Palestinian people do you write about? Your historical facts are sadly a joke. Anyone living under the British Mandate held a Palestinian passport, Jew, Christian or Muslim. 80% of the original size of Palestine went to the Muslims and it's called Jordan. Jordan killed many of the "Palestinians" and kicked the rest out. Where's your condemnation for that? Oh that's right you just want to be a self-hating Jew. Do you think this will make the world accept you? Bruhaaah. I'll see you at the gas chamber when they drag us both in. You need to wake up and realize you are spreading propaganda and hate. You only point to mistakes of Jews/Israel but not of the surrounding thugacracies. They murder dissenting people. Israel doesn't which is why you can write this piece of crap on your blog at all.A New Yorkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11997572457756451648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29186394.post-30297418467242438462010-06-07T02:02:53.358-04:002010-06-07T02:02:53.358-04:00Thank you for this post. You might enjoy this art...Thank you for this post. You might enjoy this article from the Huffington Post, if you haven't already seen it: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hajo-meyer/an-ethical-tradition-betr_b_438660.html<br /><br />I thought it was beautiful and important.And I'll Raise You 5https://www.blogger.com/profile/04807118403081664721noreply@blogger.com